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I’d like to show you how NOT to build a list

by Andy Jenkins on March 6, 2010

Don’t you hate when this happens?:

You see well-done sales letter or slick and pretty sales video… It’s WORKING. You’re reading or watching, you’re into it, and then BAM – you’re distracted with an Opt-In Form.

WHY OH WHY would the seller do that? They’re driving traffic to a place where they’re trying to close the sale, right?

They’re making their case, overcoming objections, they’re selling to me… Aaaaaand then, they give me the option to NOT BUY??

They’re suddenly showing me bunch of good copy to get me to stop thinking about spending any money with them, but instead join on up and start getting FREE STUFF. Sigh.

Ya know, maybe spending money on that product wasn’t such a good idea anyway. I mean, think about it – if you’re GOOD at getting opt ins with this scheme, you’re actually doing it at the expense of PAYING customers.

Repeat after me: A Confused MIND says NO!

So Have ONE GOAL and ONE GOAL ONLY on your landing pages. This is a rookie mistake, and I see WAY too many veterans doing it, too.

Look, after 9 years of Inteweb marketing, I’ve made mistakes like this – we ALL have.

But I’ve also tripped over a couple of spiffy tricks I’ve used to build a list of happy and responsive subscribers. And I’m talking six-figures worth of subscribers.

So rather than dwell on mistakes, here are a few of the higher points I think will save you a lot of pain in building your own lists up. If that’s cool with you. :)

1. When you’re marketing, you’re either creating relationships or closing a sale. That’s it.

If you try to do BOTH, you end up giving the potential customer a parachute to jump out of your carefully crafted pitch, or you send them mixed messages because you now feel compelled to get them to join your list if they don’t buy.

That ain’t gonna work, son (or cuzin, or boss, or daughter).

Here’s my advice. At the beginning, you’re only getting 2 kinds of leads: Cold Traffic (They don’t know you at all) or Endorsed Traffic (Someone referred them, but this if your first “official” introduction).

For these people you need to concentrate on creating a RELATIONSHIP before you try to sell them ANYTHING.

Do you ask someone for money the first time you meet them? I try not to. :)

The fact is, asking someone to do business with you the very first time you meet has a very small chance of success – that’s why most online businesses have the abysmal close rate of 1%.

Instead, you get to know that person and show them what you’re all about.

All of the sudden, you’ve got a connection, AND NOW the relationship can evolv to a place of trust. From there, it’s SO MUCH EASIER to start to “Talk Business”.

And THAT’S WHY list building is so powerful – because the first time you meet a potential customer, all you really need to do is eliminate the risk in order to create a relationship with them.

So, how to do you eliminate risk? First things first – let’s define “Risk” in our market. Risk is generally a condition where a person is in a position to LOSE something if they engage with another person.

When someone first “meets” you online, they don’t know if you’re for real, or if you’re a waste of time, effort, money, air, etc.

So, how do we eliminate risk and create a relationship that could lead to a TRANSACTION of VALUE down the road?

Picture this: Pretend that you’re a visitor to an page where you can get a free-report and all you have to do is give your email address to get that free-report.

Most online sellers try to create juicy “Opt-In Compensation” (Where the visitor gets something for opting-in) that is very similar to the problems that their PRODUCT SOLVES.

And this is WRONG.

Here’s what I would do – I made this phrase up about a year ago – it even got re-tweeted a couple of times:

2. OFFER Value without Expectation of Compensation.

Pretty catchy, eh? :D

I’m talking about reaching as broadly as you can into your chosen niche and giving away FREE content that solves the basic, general problems for those prospects.

Don’t give away a free chapter of your e-book, or a free trial of your e-course… Those things put the burden on THEM to prove to themselves that you’re worth buying from. It’s like giving them a job to do that has no compensation.

Instead of giving them WORK, just PROVE to them that you’re worth buying from by solving their pressing problems for them the very first time they meet you, AND ONLY ask for an opt-in in exchange.

Don’t even bring up that you sell anything at all at this point.

In fact, you should deliberately be trying to help people who may not be potential customers of your specific product AT ALL. That might seem counter-intuitive, but think of it like this:

3. Free Line Content Should Solve the BIG Problems in Your Niche

Remember, the reason we’re building a list is so we can make lots of offers to lots of people. We don’t want a list that’s so targeted that they only have that one single problem in common, right?

Because once we sell them that one thing, we’re done. Unless you sell something people need refills on, that list is not very valuable to YOU, much less to any potential JV Partners.

Let me give you an industry-specific example: Weight Loss.

There’s really only 3 main reasons people are overweight.
1) Bad Diet
2) Lack of Exercise
3) Health Related Issues

So, while your product might address an exercise program for busy professionals or “Easy Healthy Cooking on a Budget” or even more specific “How to Exercise When You’re Debilitated”

Your product is still only addressing ONE of those 3 reasons which means that you’re NOT talking to the other 2/3rds of the market. But WHY NOT address the entire market with your free-line?

Then, once you have a relationship, offer your product to a segment of those subs who are INTERESTED. Everyone else who ISN’T interested is FINE in the meantime, because they got free solutions from you. They are in the black, and you have proven to be a NO-RISK interaction.

So NOW you still have room to address that other 2/3rds of the market in future products, or JV promotions, etc. from INSIDE the comfort of your own list. You don’t have to go out and re-build new targeted traffic.

If you’re the person with a course on Exercise for the Debilitated, you’re going to be much more able to make JV deals with other folks if you have a list that has a broader interest in similar, related products, too.

And when that JV mails for you, he’s not just going to mail to HIS segment of people interested in the narrow focus of your product… If your free line content has BROAD value, he’ll send to ALL his prospects.

Overall, solving the big, general problems your niche has in common will get you the MOST traffic. And the goodwill you gain will allow you to build a valuable relationship that you can leverage and profit from in the future.

That’s with your own products, as an affiliate, as an ad publisher – you essentially now have an audience that you can TEST new revenue streams and products with.

4. Expanding Their World Automatically Complicates It

Let me give you one last example with my own product, Video Boss. I didn’t go after ONLY the hard core video heads with my marketing and free line content.

I went after ALL internet marketers, and I wanted to prove the value of adding video to your mix. SOME of those people will get WAY into video and are going to NEED Video Boss.

Some people are going to use that free line content and it’s going to pull back the curtain on a whole new business/hobby - if they LOVE video, I’ve just expanded their world, and they will need a guide.

But the ones that don’t… They’ll stick around because I provided a solution – a way to get more customers – that they may or may not use specifically.

But they know that this guy Andy Jenkins has good solutions! So when I talk about a problem that they DO have (like – gosh, I don’t know… List Building?), I’ve already got my foot in the door.

Think back to the first time you EVER MET or HEARD of Andy Jenkins… Chances are, it wasn’t because I was selling you something.

And if I was, I probably had something you could get FOR FREE without ANY expectation of a sale… But of course, NOT on the same page. :)

So of ALL the ways you could go broader with your OWN free line content, leave me a comment to tell me how you will apply this in your own list-building efforts.

Hope that helps, and have a great weekend!
Andy

P.S. Even if you haven’t started building a list yet, let me know what you think of this by leaving a comment below. Or just read below to see the people who will tell me I’m wrong. :)

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I’d like you to meet “Mr. Choke in the Clutch”

by Andy Jenkins on September 2, 2009

Let me tell you a fun little story about Andy Jenkins.

I used to be known as a “Mr. Choke In the Clutch”.

I’ll explain:

I played football in High School and for one year in College – Inside Middle Linebacker. During the regular season, I had great stats – lots’ of solo tackles and assists, tons of sacks, etc.

But when it came time for the big games, I blew it – almost always.

While I was on the field during those games, some sort of emotional tidal wave would wash over me – and before I knew what happened, I’d be running half as fast as I could, or hitting half as hard as I was strong.

It positively freaked my coaches out. And for most of my young adult life, I carried this “Choke in the clutch” psychology with me. Consider the following:

About 12 years ago, I got a call from a New York Television production company. They wanted to know if I was interested in coming into the city to edit some material for a TV program. I said “Sure” and they gave me the address and I got on the subway to go.

I arrived in front of the Ed Sullivan Theater – the show was David Letterman.

I called the guy from a pay phone down the street and told him that I couldn’t make it.

10 years ago, I had the chance to spend 2 weeks with Michael Kahn. Michael is Steven Spielberg’s editor. He might be the best feature film cutter in the world.

I didn’t even ask my boss (at the time) for time off from work to do it.

Why am I telling you this? What possible motivation could I have to let you in on what amounts to some of the most embarrassing moments that I have ever had?

Because a few years ago, I figured out why I “Choked in the Clutch”.

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New Webinar, and some Other Goodies

by Andy Jenkins on August 28, 2009

3 Quick things today (Cause it’s a Friday and its 5pm somewhere).

#1. Goodie Numero Uno – New Free Webinizzy

With the last minute addition of live sound effects performed by Frank Kern, the “How to use Video for Online Marketing” webinar appears to have been better received than those annoying headache commercials, “Head On Apply Directly to the Forehead. Head On Apply Directly to the Forehead…

I personally had such a good time that I want to do another one.

This will be another “free dealie” on Go To Webinar, and you’re very invited to attend.

DanPirateAnd while I will not have the benefit of Frank’s S/FX support this time, I will have the presence of the remarkable Dan Thies.  And Dan likes Pirate Costumes (Seriously, there is simply no making this stuff up), so we’ll have that going for us.

Dan Thies (Ninja SEM from Texas) and I are getting together to talk about this theme:

You’re not making enough money…

…and you’re spending too much time doing it.

So stop doing that. Here’s how.

We should have all the info and be ready to go early next week, so I’ll buzz ya then. Yes – there will be Mind Maps.

#2. Goodie Numero Dos – Free Teleseminar Download

AdultBigWheel“Poppa” Nathan Anderson (SEO Warlock & Southern Colorado Big Wheel for Adults Racing Champion) and I completed a Teleseminar that I’d like you to have – fo’ Free.

It’s solid – with a great part about the hands-down FASTEST way to create video for your site WITHOUT having to write a script. If I wasn’t the dude that talked about it, I’d be pretty damn impressed.

Download that here!

#3. Goodie Numero Tres (That’s 3) – Watch this Free Video and take notes

TonyRobbinsTony Robbins (Tall, very smart, clean) scares John Reese and Frank Kern (Shorter, dirtier) into contorted facial expressions with some full frontal confrontation.

This is one of those rare videos that you don’t “get” at first, and then all of the sudden, you get incredible Goosebumps because the content is badass.  I’ve watched it – and I don’t watch many online videos (because 90% of them are ghetto).

WARNING:  There’s an opt-in to grab the video – so you’ll definitely get another email message or two.  In fact, the second one you get is another link to another free video.  (“The horror… The horror…”)

Disclosure – This is an affiliate link.  But it’s Friday, so, no biggie.  :)

https://tonyrobbins.infusionsoft.com/go/mms/a1322/

YOU!  Have and awesome weekend.

Andy “The Knife” Jenkins

P.S.  When I was watching the video with Tony, Janeen was looking over my shoulder.  At the end, I looked over and she had taken notes.  Awesome!  My point is, “significant others” will dig this video too.  At the end, I bet they understand why you work as hard as you do.

So, invite them to watch along with you. Then they won’t think you just watch porn all day (WIN). https://tonyrobbins.infusionsoft.com/go/mms/a1322/

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New Webinar – How to use Video for Marketing

by Andy Jenkins on August 17, 2009

Mark your Calenders:

Tuesday, August 18th (My Birthday!  WOOT!)

5pm Pacific (8pm Eastern)

Topic: How to Use Video for Marketing Online

Where: Click This Link to get your LogIn Information

Title:  Random Acts of Coolness and Video Marketing

What:  This is a totally Free, No-Pitch Webinar.  On it, Frank Kern and I will drill down and discuss the Why’s, Wherefores, and How-To Web Video Techniques that I’ve been using online for the last 3 years.

We’ll talk about:

  • Why Live Video is NOT the best choice for Lead Capture or List Building
  • The 8-Second Rule – How to keep your visitors HOOKED to every frame of your presentation.
  • The “Hook”, “Path”, and “Persuasion” method for swift and effective script writing.
  • How to build Trust, Authority, and Integrity using Video to create the perfectly balanced buying environment.
  • The simple “Goal Match” strategy to maximize your ROI for Paid Traffic.
  • How to NOT be a good speaker and still create powerful persuasive video presentations.
  • And tons more.

The Webinar is scheduled for about 90 minutes, but I’ll bet we go a little long.

Also (and this is kinda cool, and a little scary), I’ll be using a new presentation application called “Prezi” to blast through the webinar.  It’s a HUGE data file, and I’m a little nervous about whether or not the software can handle everything that I’m throwing at it.

But if it works, this could be the coolest way to present live (and even record for online playback) media that I’ve seen in a LONG time.

Check out what it looks like:

Prezi Online Live Presenter Software

There’s a limit of 1000 seats for the Webinar, and Frank has already informed all of his subscribers, so make sure you get your log in and show up early for the show!

Happy Birthday to ME!

Click This Link to get your LogIn Information

See Ya there!

AJ

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