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> <channel><title>Comments on: My Guru Death Match with Brad Fallon (and a new video game)</title> <atom:link href="http://www.andyjenkinsblog.com/2009/08/25/stompernet-controversy/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://www.andyjenkinsblog.com/2009/08/25/stompernet-controversy/</link> <description>Irreverence Rebellion and interweb marketing.  Sometimes with video thingies.</description> <lastBuildDate>Wed, 16 May 2012 13:14:00 +0000</lastBuildDate> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1</generator> <item><title>By: naughty mates</title><link>http://www.andyjenkinsblog.com/2009/08/25/stompernet-controversy/#comment-14108</link> <dc:creator>naughty mates</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 22 Mar 2012 09:51:51 +0000</pubDate> <guid
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[...]please visit the sites we follow, including this one, as it represents our picks from the web[...]…...</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Read was interesting, stay in touch…&#8230;</strong></p><p>[...]please visit the sites we follow, including this one, as it represents our picks from the web[...]…&#8230;</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: DavidAllenNeron</title><link>http://www.andyjenkinsblog.com/2009/08/25/stompernet-controversy/#comment-13411</link> <dc:creator>DavidAllenNeron</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 24 Jan 2012 10:18:27 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.andyjenkinsblog.com/?p=114#comment-13411</guid> <description>I spent a bit of time surfing the ol interwebs here tonight; I can&#039;t even remember how I stumbled onto the droids site but it&#039;s irrelevant now.
Really in all honesty I think it&#039;s kind of funny how such a dichotomy like God vs Satan/Lucifer or whatever Gandhi and Hitler or some such none-sense has crept into what is seemingly such a positive community.
In a world where we obviously all want to do well I find division like this detracts from our overall goal as human beings surrounded by other human beings. That goal being Community.
Self expression is important and I think either way you go with that (being a dick or being positive) ..&quot;You Win&quot; it just depends on what you want to win.
Everyone likes taking &quot;Celebrities&quot; down a notch and everyone always cheers on the underdog, until the underdog exposes himself as the shill he claims to be calling out.
It gets to a point where all the name calling and &quot;exposing&quot; becomes a game or some kind of spot-light that provides someone with some self-importance they themselves attack others for.
We all want recognition. PERIOD.
But what do you want to be recognized as and where does that take you?
I&#039;ve learned all the manipulative techniques all the gurus claim to use (and some do efficiently, no lie) but come on, give me a break show-boater use it to change the frucking world instead of peddling models. I mean really ?! Tony Robbins? NLP? No... sorry, it&#039;s Bandler, Richard frucking Bandler. There must be like some kind of intelligence barrier or something going on with some people online.
You have to have some kind of morality compass and I&#039;m directing that at the more negative individuals but the blame lays all around us because I find a lot of the information that is provided is VERY valuable information but not in the dollar sense that everyone attributes to it but the impact it *COULD* have and that the inherent value attached to it via the ol Federal Reserve notes detracts from it evolving past that.
That and you (marketing) guys are missing out on some of the biggest things when it comes to getting people to take action and actually change their lives.
Which brings me back to the morality compass again because it works both ways or as Mittens Romney says &quot;What&#039;s Sauce For The Goose Is Now Sauce For The Gander.&quot;
As a community (focused on the positive) unlike SOME people *cough*droid*cough* because we essentially deal in information we need to reframe that to dealing in education and the more we tweak our systems and provide higher percentages of success &amp; results the more we can influence the ACTUAL education systems and maybe people wouldn&#039;t grow up not taking action and feeling so helpless.
Let&#039;s keep this all positive for 2012, approach things with a level head and keep in mind we&#039;re here to educate people:
&quot;the act or process of imparting or acquiring particular knowledge or skills, as for a profession. &quot;
or pedagogics for those of you with an odd vocabulary like myself.
To me the situation goes something like this.... You can teach a man to cut down trees and create the lumber necessary to build a house but if he doesn&#039;t know how to build a house he won&#039;t even bother, he&#039;ll just look at other peoples complicated houses with siding, a roof and shingles, insulation, electricity, a foundation and he&#039;ll be sitting there with a bunch of tools he doesn&#039;t know how to use because no one taught him the steps to building a house, or pouring the foundation and of course as marketing goes we just ignore those people and call it targeted marketing.
Even corporate advertising is highly targeted and I&#039;m definitely not saying that targeted marketing is bad at all, I&#039;m just saying when you do that you miss out on people who in most cases need just a touch more help but are 10x more grateful and they have lots of friends because misery loves company and there is a world full of poor people with capabilities they don&#039;t recognize or gave up on ages ago, they only need a little coaxing and they&#039;ll take action if it&#039;s done correctly, because you have to remember poor people think everything is a scam, the price going up on bread is a scam instead of realizing shortages of food all around the world. Poor people are generally quite unfulfilled people so they fill their lives with the true manipulators television PROGRAMMING, forever drowning in American Idols, Jersey Shores and every kind of sport you can think of, even cards! People feel so helpless so they identify with the primal tribalism that their favorite sports teams provide, or the favorite singer on whatever debasing &quot;celebrity&quot; culture promoting television show is popular these days.
Culture is not your friend. -Terence McKenna
We need to take some of our humanity back before we can give back to humanity -David Allen Neron
Honesty/transparency is always the best policy, I highly commend you Andy Jenkins.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I spent a bit of time surfing the ol interwebs here tonight; I can&#8217;t even remember how I stumbled onto the droids site but it&#8217;s irrelevant now.<br
/> Really in all honesty I think it&#8217;s kind of funny how such a dichotomy like God vs Satan/Lucifer or whatever Gandhi and Hitler or some such none-sense has crept into what is seemingly such a positive community.</p><p>In a world where we obviously all want to do well I find division like this detracts from our overall goal as human beings surrounded by other human beings. That goal being Community.</p><p>Self expression is important and I think either way you go with that (being a dick or being positive) ..&#8221;You Win&#8221; it just depends on what you want to win.<br
/> Everyone likes taking &#8220;Celebrities&#8221; down a notch and everyone always cheers on the underdog, until the underdog exposes himself as the shill he claims to be calling out.</p><p>It gets to a point where all the name calling and &#8220;exposing&#8221; becomes a game or some kind of spot-light that provides someone with some self-importance they themselves attack others for.</p><p>We all want recognition. PERIOD.</p><p>But what do you want to be recognized as and where does that take you?<br
/> I&#8217;ve learned all the manipulative techniques all the gurus claim to use (and some do efficiently, no lie) but come on, give me a break show-boater use it to change the frucking world instead of peddling models. I mean really ?! Tony Robbins? NLP? No&#8230; sorry, it&#8217;s Bandler, Richard frucking Bandler. There must be like some kind of intelligence barrier or something going on with some people online.</p><p>You have to have some kind of morality compass and I&#8217;m directing that at the more negative individuals but the blame lays all around us because I find a lot of the information that is provided is VERY valuable information but not in the dollar sense that everyone attributes to it but the impact it *COULD* have and that the inherent value attached to it via the ol Federal Reserve notes detracts from it evolving past that.</p><p>That and you (marketing) guys are missing out on some of the biggest things when it comes to getting people to take action and actually change their lives.<br
/> Which brings me back to the morality compass again because it works both ways or as Mittens Romney says &#8220;What&#8217;s Sauce For The Goose Is Now Sauce For The Gander.&#8221;<br
/> As a community (focused on the positive) unlike SOME people *cough*droid*cough* because we essentially deal in information we need to reframe that to dealing in education and the more we tweak our systems and provide higher percentages of success &amp; results the more we can influence the ACTUAL education systems and maybe people wouldn&#8217;t grow up not taking action and feeling so helpless.</p><p>Let&#8217;s keep this all positive for 2012, approach things with a level head and keep in mind we&#8217;re here to educate people:</p><p>&#8220;the act or process of imparting or acquiring particular knowledge or skills, as for a profession. &#8221;</p><p>or pedagogics for those of you with an odd vocabulary like myself.</p><p>To me the situation goes something like this&#8230;. You can teach a man to cut down trees and create the lumber necessary to build a house but if he doesn&#8217;t know how to build a house he won&#8217;t even bother, he&#8217;ll just look at other peoples complicated houses with siding, a roof and shingles, insulation, electricity, a foundation and he&#8217;ll be sitting there with a bunch of tools he doesn&#8217;t know how to use because no one taught him the steps to building a house, or pouring the foundation and of course as marketing goes we just ignore those people and call it targeted marketing.</p><p>Even corporate advertising is highly targeted and I&#8217;m definitely not saying that targeted marketing is bad at all, I&#8217;m just saying when you do that you miss out on people who in most cases need just a touch more help but are 10x more grateful and they have lots of friends because misery loves company and there is a world full of poor people with capabilities they don&#8217;t recognize or gave up on ages ago, they only need a little coaxing and they&#8217;ll take action if it&#8217;s done correctly, because you have to remember poor people think everything is a scam, the price going up on bread is a scam instead of realizing shortages of food all around the world. Poor people are generally quite unfulfilled people so they fill their lives with the true manipulators television PROGRAMMING, forever drowning in American Idols, Jersey Shores and every kind of sport you can think of, even cards! People feel so helpless so they identify with the primal tribalism that their favorite sports teams provide, or the favorite singer on whatever debasing &#8220;celebrity&#8221; culture promoting television show is popular these days.</p><p>Culture is not your friend. -Terence McKenna</p><p>We need to take some of our humanity back before we can give back to humanity -David Allen Neron</p><p>Honesty/transparency is always the best policy, I highly commend you Andy Jenkins.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Wesley Jordan</title><link>http://www.andyjenkinsblog.com/2009/08/25/stompernet-controversy/#comment-3838</link> <dc:creator>Wesley Jordan</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 14 May 2010 16:07:45 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.andyjenkinsblog.com/?p=114#comment-3838</guid> <description>Hey Andy,
This is one of the most helpful posts that I&#039;ve read in a really long time.  I have a business on the verge of expanding into something massive and have already seen that the 50/50 model is going to lead to problems down the road.  Reading your post was like looking through a portal into a future that I don&#039;t want to experience and has given me tremendous insight and quite frankly, the courage, to make the changes now rather than later when I&#039;m forced to.  Thank you for sharing your experience as it provides a look into something that only experience can teach and stands as a warning beacon to people in my position.  With this new information I&#039;m going to rebuild my model so that I can replace the &quot;incredibly legal and incredibly complicated&quot; growing pains by taking actions now that ensure everything is setup correctly.  I have already been surprised by people and events more than once as I continue to learn how to run one of the largest companies I&#039;ve ever owned.  What an incredible roller coaster ride!  Thanks for sharing your hard earned wisdom and best of luck to you in everything that you do.
Thanks,
Wesley Jordan</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Andy,</p><p>This is one of the most helpful posts that I&#8217;ve read in a really long time.  I have a business on the verge of expanding into something massive and have already seen that the 50/50 model is going to lead to problems down the road.  Reading your post was like looking through a portal into a future that I don&#8217;t want to experience and has given me tremendous insight and quite frankly, the courage, to make the changes now rather than later when I&#8217;m forced to.  Thank you for sharing your experience as it provides a look into something that only experience can teach and stands as a warning beacon to people in my position.  With this new information I&#8217;m going to rebuild my model so that I can replace the &#8220;incredibly legal and incredibly complicated&#8221; growing pains by taking actions now that ensure everything is setup correctly.  I have already been surprised by people and events more than once as I continue to learn how to run one of the largest companies I&#8217;ve ever owned.  What an incredible roller coaster ride!  Thanks for sharing your hard earned wisdom and best of luck to you in everything that you do.</p><p>Thanks,<br
/> Wesley Jordan</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Walter Daniels</title><link>http://www.andyjenkinsblog.com/2009/08/25/stompernet-controversy/#comment-1101</link> <dc:creator>Walter Daniels</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 20 Sep 2009 20:31:06 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.andyjenkinsblog.com/?p=114#comment-1101</guid> <description>You sound like me. I once said on Paul Myers MicroBiz list. &quot;If I wanted to run a Fortune 500 Company, I&#039;d have gone to work for one.&quot; Big companies are nice, but not everyone wants to run one. Some of us just want to satisfy our customers, without all the c&amp;*p that goes with running a big company. Others are happy building and running the big company. Don&#039;t feel like you did anything wrong, by not staying. You got lucky with the wake up call. It not only happened while you were young enough  to still enjoy life, but a happy ending to the call. A lot of people don&#039;t, and many others don&#039;t learn from seeing it happen to someone they know.
When I was young, I wanted to be able to spend time with those I really cared about, no matter how weird the hours were. I&#039;m 60 and disabled, so I&#039;ve sort of gotten to do that. :-) But, disability pay s**ks, so I&#039;m using my experience, and knowledge, to write a book. (I didn&#039;t, and still don&#039;t want to &quot;guru&quot; up. :-)) Hopefully that will bring enough income, to cover what SSDI doesn&#039;t, so I can get around in spite of being 90% paraplegic (that means paralyzed from the waist down).</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You sound like me. I once said on Paul Myers MicroBiz list. &#8220;If I wanted to run a Fortune 500 Company, I&#8217;d have gone to work for one.&#8221; Big companies are nice, but not everyone wants to run one. Some of us just want to satisfy our customers, without all the c&amp;*p that goes with running a big company. Others are happy building and running the big company. Don&#8217;t feel like you did anything wrong, by not staying. You got lucky with the wake up call. It not only happened while you were young enough  to still enjoy life, but a happy ending to the call. A lot of people don&#8217;t, and many others don&#8217;t learn from seeing it happen to someone they know.<br
/> When I was young, I wanted to be able to spend time with those I really cared about, no matter how weird the hours were. I&#8217;m 60 and disabled, so I&#8217;ve sort of gotten to do that. <img
src='http://www.andyjenkinsblog.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> But, disability pay s**ks, so I&#8217;m using my experience, and knowledge, to write a book. (I didn&#8217;t, and still don&#8217;t want to &#8220;guru&#8221; up. <img
src='http://www.andyjenkinsblog.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> ) Hopefully that will bring enough income, to cover what SSDI doesn&#8217;t, so I can get around in spite of being 90% paraplegic (that means paralyzed from the waist down).</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Seth Johnson</title><link>http://www.andyjenkinsblog.com/2009/08/25/stompernet-controversy/#comment-1080</link> <dc:creator>Seth Johnson</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 20 Sep 2009 09:25:38 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.andyjenkinsblog.com/?p=114#comment-1080</guid> <description>Andy,
You are a great influence to many people and I want to thank you
for staying around to teach us a thing or two :)
I hope you are enjoying your wonderful new life in California as a free
man!
Thanks Again
Seth Johnson</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Andy,</p><p>You are a great influence to many people and I want to thank you</p><p>for staying around to teach us a thing or two <img
src='http://www.andyjenkinsblog.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p><p>I hope you are enjoying your wonderful new life in California as a free</p><p>man!</p><p>Thanks Again<br
/> Seth Johnson</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Stompernet 999 Conspiracy Theories &#38; Scam Thread</title><link>http://www.andyjenkinsblog.com/2009/08/25/stompernet-controversy/#comment-824</link> <dc:creator>Stompernet 999 Conspiracy Theories &#38; Scam Thread</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 15 Sep 2009 10:41:26 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.andyjenkinsblog.com/?p=114#comment-824</guid> <description>[...] into whether anyone really has the right to know or discuss these things on open forums.Ultimately Andy Jenkins made a response he probably didn&#8217;t have to make, but certainly lays a lot of ghosts to rest.Why this post?I [...]</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] into whether anyone really has the right to know or discuss these things on open forums.Ultimately Andy Jenkins made a response he probably didn&#8217;t have to make, but certainly lays a lot of ghosts to rest.Why this post?I [...]</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: itsjeremy</title><link>http://www.andyjenkinsblog.com/2009/08/25/stompernet-controversy/#comment-680</link> <dc:creator>itsjeremy</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 10 Sep 2009 07:15:55 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.andyjenkinsblog.com/?p=114#comment-680</guid> <description>WTF...OK, I just read this whole thing because I had to know what the heck you were talking about in your webinar last night (leaving SN)!!!!
I&#039;ve utilized my gmail filters and have all IM&#039;ers emails going to one (now really big) Label/Folder that I glance at when I&#039;m curious about what is new...(I found it easier to get some *real* work done this way ;)
Anywho! I&#039;m glad to hear it all this way: via this post.
Damn! That is some drama, but makes for one helluva post. LOL
I agree with a comment earlier, even if you guys were accused of worse, I&#039;d still say &quot;them guys some good @$$ IM&#039;ers&quot; (and probably a lot more too).
Great to hear that your wife is well...that would definitly be a &quot;scary&quot; (to say the least) time. Being able to &quot;step-away&quot; and spend time with your family like you said above is what it is all *really* about anyways!
BRAVO to you my friend!
Thank you for all that you are ;)</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WTF&#8230;OK, I just read this whole thing because I had to know what the heck you were talking about in your webinar last night (leaving SN)!!!!</p><p>I&#8217;ve utilized my gmail filters and have all IM&#8217;ers emails going to one (now really big) Label/Folder that I glance at when I&#8217;m curious about what is new&#8230;(I found it easier to get some *real* work done this way <img
src='http://www.andyjenkinsblog.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /><br
/> Anywho! I&#8217;m glad to hear it all this way: via this post.</p><p>Damn! That is some drama, but makes for one helluva post. LOL</p><p>I agree with a comment earlier, even if you guys were accused of worse, I&#8217;d still say &#8220;them guys some good @$$ IM&#8217;ers&#8221; (and probably a lot more too).</p><p>Great to hear that your wife is well&#8230;that would definitly be a &#8220;scary&#8221; (to say the least) time. Being able to &#8220;step-away&#8221; and spend time with your family like you said above is what it is all *really* about anyways!</p><p>BRAVO to you my friend!</p><p>Thank you for all that you are <img
src='http://www.andyjenkinsblog.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /></p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Fran</title><link>http://www.andyjenkinsblog.com/2009/08/25/stompernet-controversy/#comment-657</link> <dc:creator>Fran</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 09 Sep 2009 21:50:46 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.andyjenkinsblog.com/?p=114#comment-657</guid> <description>Hey Andy,
I must live in a bubble!
Actually, it is part of who I am to avoid the soap opera life.
Today, when I went to check out the new SN offer was the first I heard of the chaos.  Read enough of the ambulance chasers to know exactly what they were about...one of my favorite sayings by Emerson:  What you do speaks so loudly that I cannot hear what you say.
Thank you for publishing the details.
I wanna be just like you when I grow up...well, except for the funny face and the paparazzi...oh, and maybe your need to wear underwear in public (I was at SN5).
Namaste,
Fran</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Andy,<br
/> I must live in a bubble!<br
/> Actually, it is part of who I am to avoid the soap opera life.</p><p>Today, when I went to check out the new SN offer was the first I heard of the chaos.  Read enough of the ambulance chasers to know exactly what they were about&#8230;one of my favorite sayings by Emerson:  What you do speaks so loudly that I cannot hear what you say.</p><p>Thank you for publishing the details.</p><p>I wanna be just like you when I grow up&#8230;well, except for the funny face and the paparazzi&#8230;oh, and maybe your need to wear underwear in public (I was at SN5).</p><p>Namaste,<br
/> Fran</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: KiwiKev</title><link>http://www.andyjenkinsblog.com/2009/08/25/stompernet-controversy/#comment-627</link> <dc:creator>KiwiKev</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 07 Sep 2009 16:25:37 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.andyjenkinsblog.com/?p=114#comment-627</guid> <description>Hey Andy
Congrats and all the best to you and Janeen
cheers KiwiKev</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Andy</p><p>Congrats and all the best to you and Janeen</p><p>cheers KiwiKev</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: al</title><link>http://www.andyjenkinsblog.com/2009/08/25/stompernet-controversy/#comment-609</link> <dc:creator>al</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 06 Sep 2009 11:53:12 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.andyjenkinsblog.com/?p=114#comment-609</guid> <description>Right on nice post.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Right on nice post.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss>
